We are a country of idiots (not us :) ). It's a show trial and that's all this stuff is (though, they are getting crazier). We still have one yard sign up and I have the Ukrainian flag on a tree as well as Stop Project 2025. I can't cave.
I get this is "Trump's vengeance Tour" but I gotta say that Dick Cheney's kid is not who I'd go after. Dick is old and what not, but he's still connected and someone might "fall out of a window". Just saying. Trumps "hate list" is long there are far easier targets.
I'm hoping that happens. I move worms off the sidewalk so they don't get stepped on. I also kill bees if they could hurt me again and other folks and I'm selective about killings ants. So, I'm basically nice :) but I have my limit and reached it a long time ago.
Regarding the persecution of Liz Cheney by VonShitzInPantz, as his former fixer Michael Cohen frequently monikers him, and what looks like many of his Republicans flunkeys in Congress that appears to be taking shape, I would be very careful if I were these members of Congress about what I wished for and did because what they may be unaware of is that the fascist dictator will turn on them in a “New York Minute” if he feels they are not being loyal enough to him or simply because he can.
It would behoove these members of Congress so intent on pandering to Big Orange’s, as JVL labeled him yesterday, every whim to read German dissident and Lutheran minister Martin Neimoller’s 1948 (I think that was the year he wrote it) poem ‘First they Came’ if they think it is cute to suck up to autocrats and wannabe dictators, as well as read the United States Declaration of Independence and Constitution. That is if they are capable of reading at all and grasping concepts that require more than a third grade education.
Quite frankly, I am not all confident that all of the Republicans in Congress are literate at the 12th grade level (I mean look at dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna and dipshit Alabama Senator Tommy Tuberville, for example). But is never a wise idea to grovel to autocrats and wannabe dictators because the results are never good for anyone, as Bulwark writers have been saying for years.
The best way, in my judgement, to ultimately address the rampant abuses of power, corruption, and cruelly for the sake of cruelty about to be unleashed by VonShitzInPantz, his repugnant, disgusting, sleazy, slimy, and good-for-nothing bum Vice President, and the goons in his administration is to form a Truth Commission, much like South Africa did after its apartheid era ended, once they leave office.
Of course, that is assuming our nation’s 248-year-old plus experiment in democracy survives their reign of terror. This way, all criminal proceedings relating to this matter would be completely removed from the US Department of Justice and United States Congress, and no one can possibly be credibly accused of politicizing anything around it.
“Cheney had an ethical responsibility to only communicate with Hutchinson with her attorney present.”
I won't speak to the ethical responsibility as I am not an attorney (Although I often do stay at at Holiday Inn Express) but the legal angle really mystifies me. A witness does not even HAVE to have legal representation. Prudence might make it advisable but it is never legally required unless one is in fact in custody and likely to be prosecuted for a crime or the defendant in a legal suit.
I am sorry for the inconvenience for Liz but I would love to watch her hearings. She is the daughter of Darth Vader and I am sure she can give as good as she can get from the Banana Republicans.
I have no doubt but the people who will watch it are murdoch viewers so I don't think it'll get through. When it's aired on fox and bs, it will likely be edited since only lies are permitted there and on sinclair broadcasting.
I am hopeful that enough Republicans still take national security seriously and will havre the sense to not confirm someone to our nation’s top intelligence post who traffics in ludicrous conspiracy theories, acts as an apologist for Putin, and cavorts with deposed murderous dictators like Syria’s Assad.
It would be better for all of us if Tulsi would just disappear from American politics like a Hawaiian sunset on the horizon of the Pacific Ocean does, except in her case permanently vanish. This would also grant Tulsi ample time to wax down her surfboard as well as render it impossible for her to further embarrass our great country and endanger its national security.
Sigh…Dear Democrats, please fire all the old people and consultants for fuck’s sake. I may not agree with AOC on everything, but do you want a left wing firebrand (who is very prepared and informed) aiming at your moderate members, or calling out Trump’s bullshit and maybe pulling some left leaning folks back into the fold?
I’d let her run loose. A 74 year old with a fast moving form of cancer? These people are lunatics. If we’re in a marriage of convenience with them I’d like to ask them if they want to remain in the minority forever? If yes keep doing what you’re doing. If not, get the hell outta the way.
John McCain said it best: "It's always darkest before it becomes completely black." Dark now: completely black on inauguration day. And, as the old Toyota ad tag line read, "You asked for it, you've got it.."
Thank you Mr. Kristol, stopping Gabbard is priority one. Maybe just maybe McConnell can finally do some good. He has more than a dozen years of extremely bad to make up for, but if he just will step up he can still go out as a statesman. What is t***p going to do to him? Senators hate being made to look like fools and it sounds like Ms Gabbard is trying to do just that.
I'm sure someone has posted on this further down, but Barry Loudermilk??? The guy who gave a "suspicious" tour of the Capitol on 5 January? To a person who was SUPER interested to take photos of the sconces on the way down to the tunnels?
Oh, yeah... THAT Barry Loudermilk... now going after Liz Cheney. That's rich.
I'm smdh so much these days I'm pretty sure it's going to fall off.
1) I would say that people like Loudermilk have no shame, but that’s very old news by now.
2) One of the things that’s always struck me about the recent investigations into Dems and Reps is this: once the investigation is over, the Dems have accepted the results. The Reps refuse. Just look at the Russia investigation. Dems didn’t get what they wanted (dirt on Trump) but they didn’t spend time calling it a sham investigation or saying Mueller was a tool of the Deep State. Other than the honest disagreement about whether Trump obstructed justice during the investigation, Dems accepted the results. It was Trump who kept talking about it. Then look at Benghazi or the “Biden crime family” investigations. When Reps didn’t get what they wanted (dirt on Obama, Clinton, or Biden), they immediately said that the investigation was flawed. Or, in the case of the Biden investigation, they simply lied about what they had found.
The various investigations into possible voter fraud in 2020 have their own twist to this story. In that case, it’s not so much that Reps wouldn’t accept the results. They basically pretended that the investigations never happened in the first place.
My point is that even if they were to investigate Cheney and nothing at all was found, it will never go away. There will always be some “question” or “concern” about her actions. And the fact that they, themselves, conducted the investigation and didn’t find anything will not make the slightest dent in the GOP bubble.
And the same will go for anyone else who is investigated by Reps.
3) I don’t know all the details, but my gut reaction is that the Dems blew it by selecting Connolly instead of AOC. Wouldn’t it be nice to start showcasing the younger members of the party?
I also think it’s instructive to compare AOC to MTG. Both came on the scene about the same time, and I originally thought the same of both of them – loud and more interested in scoring media points than actually governing. But no sane person could look at the two of them today and think that they are cut from the same cloth. No matter how anyone feels about her policy positions, AOC has shown herself to be a serious legislator. MTG is still MTG.
And I also think it’s instructive to look at the way these two folks were treated by their respective parties. The story goes that Pelosi told AOC that if she wanted to get her issues addressed, she needed to get more people like her elected. And she needed to behave herself. MTG still says outrageous and inflammatory things, just as unserious as the day she entered Congress. But she is a rock star in the GOP today.
4) I don’t have any idea about the inner workings of the country’s intelligence community, but if 10% of the warnings about Gabbard are true, she shouldn’t be anywhere near the Office of the DNI.
All well said. Your #2 especially the case. As for #4, that Lt. Colonel in the civil affairs reserves wouldn’t pass the security check to get a job as night janitor in any intelligence facility. We’d hope that might apply to DNI job but the Senate, whaddaya gonna do? 🙄
I'm normally a true Nancy Pelosi fan, but I'm seeing where she was instrumental in sinking AOC's bid to be top Dem on the Oversight committee. I recall Nancy saying even a "glass of water" could have gotten elected as a Dem in AOC's heavily Dem NYC district when AOC first came to congress. The enmity has never faded. But it is time for the old guard Dems to gracefully cede some meaningful ground to the youngsters. Way past time, in fact. Love Nancy but this was unbecoming of a great old soldier.
I find it fascinating that people who are not yet part of the NEXT government, and even then will never have been submitted to Senate for confirmation and will only be advisors are negotiating with the Speaker of the House on THIS government's (until January 3) legislation.
Elon and Vivek can run budget negotiations when Trump is President not before.
The whole process that Trump and the GOP are following during this transition period is an absolute travesty. Allowing unelected billionaires, with immense conflicts of interest, one of whom is himself a racist immigrant who it appears worked illegally in the country and lied in his immigration application, to make decisions of any significance regarding government spending especially when a lot of that may play a role in the further support of their own businesses is beyond ridiculous. This is such overt graft and a form of corruption seen so commonly in banana republics and other authoritarian states, which we clearly are heading towards here under Trump and his totally avaricious family and friends. The worst though will follow with the almost undoubted plans to accuse Trumps opponents, including Liz Cheney and other members of the legitimate Jan 6th Congressional Committee, of crimes against the state. With that precedent where will such accusations lead. Will all who oppose Trump at any point be targeted for such quasi judicial treatment? Does this not smack of the behavior of fascist and authoritarian regimes. Already Trump is targeting journalists and newspapers he believes opposed his reelection. That alone is atrocious behavior and demands us to oppose Trump and his thieves immediately and forever! We cannot allow this behavior. Not only is it antithetical to a functioning democracy but it goes against everything that America ever stood for since 1776. Allowing this behavior to continue is a capitulation to the authoritarianism that will unquestionably be the upshot of a second Trump presidency. We need to stand firmly opposed to these actions, all of them!
How can Musk be allowed to hold America hostage. He is trying to create chaos as cover for his further theft from the tax payers. First, STOP buying Teslas. Second, we need to force the government to stop Musk from further participation in security issues. Stop backing Starlink and SpaceX. Government must support alternatives and forget this crazy notion of going to Mars. That’s a pointless waste of money when we still have so much to do to fix up Earth first.
To hell with the notion of America first. If we care about our children, grandchildren and beyond, we need to make the EARTH FIRST!
On the first anniversary of 1.6, the House held a memorial service on the Floor.
Liz Cheney was the only Republican to attend. Adam Kinzinger was at home with his wife, who was giving birth.
VP Cheney attended and stood with Rep. Cheney. Until that day I never had a kind word for the man but I’m willing to acknowledge that he is a loving father.
All of the Democrats lined up to shake his hand after. One asked him if he was concerned about how Rep. Cheney’s party was treating her. He said, “My daughter can take care of herself.”
Liz Cheney can take care of herself. I pity the idiots who try to go after her.
I'm not sure the US presidency is the most stressful job on earth. President Biden really has no reason to fear of "falling" out of a White House window while Vlad Putin won't even go in a room with windows.
We are a country of idiots (not us :) ). It's a show trial and that's all this stuff is (though, they are getting crazier). We still have one yard sign up and I have the Ukrainian flag on a tree as well as Stop Project 2025. I can't cave.
It is hard to warn people about the dangers of Trump's second term, when so many people view the dangers as a feature, not a bug.
I get this is "Trump's vengeance Tour" but I gotta say that Dick Cheney's kid is not who I'd go after. Dick is old and what not, but he's still connected and someone might "fall out of a window". Just saying. Trumps "hate list" is long there are far easier targets.
I'm hoping that happens. I move worms off the sidewalk so they don't get stepped on. I also kill bees if they could hurt me again and other folks and I'm selective about killings ants. So, I'm basically nice :) but I have my limit and reached it a long time ago.
Regarding the persecution of Liz Cheney by VonShitzInPantz, as his former fixer Michael Cohen frequently monikers him, and what looks like many of his Republicans flunkeys in Congress that appears to be taking shape, I would be very careful if I were these members of Congress about what I wished for and did because what they may be unaware of is that the fascist dictator will turn on them in a “New York Minute” if he feels they are not being loyal enough to him or simply because he can.
It would behoove these members of Congress so intent on pandering to Big Orange’s, as JVL labeled him yesterday, every whim to read German dissident and Lutheran minister Martin Neimoller’s 1948 (I think that was the year he wrote it) poem ‘First they Came’ if they think it is cute to suck up to autocrats and wannabe dictators, as well as read the United States Declaration of Independence and Constitution. That is if they are capable of reading at all and grasping concepts that require more than a third grade education.
Quite frankly, I am not all confident that all of the Republicans in Congress are literate at the 12th grade level (I mean look at dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna and dipshit Alabama Senator Tommy Tuberville, for example). But is never a wise idea to grovel to autocrats and wannabe dictators because the results are never good for anyone, as Bulwark writers have been saying for years.
The best way, in my judgement, to ultimately address the rampant abuses of power, corruption, and cruelly for the sake of cruelty about to be unleashed by VonShitzInPantz, his repugnant, disgusting, sleazy, slimy, and good-for-nothing bum Vice President, and the goons in his administration is to form a Truth Commission, much like South Africa did after its apartheid era ended, once they leave office.
Of course, that is assuming our nation’s 248-year-old plus experiment in democracy survives their reign of terror. This way, all criminal proceedings relating to this matter would be completely removed from the US Department of Justice and United States Congress, and no one can possibly be credibly accused of politicizing anything around it.
Kol Tuv,
David Hurwitz
Chicago, IL
mtg, comer, gohmert, and all the rest (santos)
“Cheney had an ethical responsibility to only communicate with Hutchinson with her attorney present.”
I won't speak to the ethical responsibility as I am not an attorney (Although I often do stay at at Holiday Inn Express) but the legal angle really mystifies me. A witness does not even HAVE to have legal representation. Prudence might make it advisable but it is never legally required unless one is in fact in custody and likely to be prosecuted for a crime or the defendant in a legal suit.
I am sorry for the inconvenience for Liz but I would love to watch her hearings. She is the daughter of Darth Vader and I am sure she can give as good as she can get from the Banana Republicans.
I have no doubt but the people who will watch it are murdoch viewers so I don't think it'll get through. When it's aired on fox and bs, it will likely be edited since only lies are permitted there and on sinclair broadcasting.
But other people who aren't in the MAGA cult or FOX consumers will watch her scorch their asses.
I am hopeful that enough Republicans still take national security seriously and will havre the sense to not confirm someone to our nation’s top intelligence post who traffics in ludicrous conspiracy theories, acts as an apologist for Putin, and cavorts with deposed murderous dictators like Syria’s Assad.
It would be better for all of us if Tulsi would just disappear from American politics like a Hawaiian sunset on the horizon of the Pacific Ocean does, except in her case permanently vanish. This would also grant Tulsi ample time to wax down her surfboard as well as render it impossible for her to further embarrass our great country and endanger its national security.
Kol Tuv,
David Hurwitz
Chicago, IL
Sigh…Dear Democrats, please fire all the old people and consultants for fuck’s sake. I may not agree with AOC on everything, but do you want a left wing firebrand (who is very prepared and informed) aiming at your moderate members, or calling out Trump’s bullshit and maybe pulling some left leaning folks back into the fold?
I’d let her run loose. A 74 year old with a fast moving form of cancer? These people are lunatics. If we’re in a marriage of convenience with them I’d like to ask them if they want to remain in the minority forever? If yes keep doing what you’re doing. If not, get the hell outta the way.
John McCain said it best: "It's always darkest before it becomes completely black." Dark now: completely black on inauguration day. And, as the old Toyota ad tag line read, "You asked for it, you've got it.."
Thank you Mr. Kristol, stopping Gabbard is priority one. Maybe just maybe McConnell can finally do some good. He has more than a dozen years of extremely bad to make up for, but if he just will step up he can still go out as a statesman. What is t***p going to do to him? Senators hate being made to look like fools and it sounds like Ms Gabbard is trying to do just that.
I'm sure someone has posted on this further down, but Barry Loudermilk??? The guy who gave a "suspicious" tour of the Capitol on 5 January? To a person who was SUPER interested to take photos of the sconces on the way down to the tunnels?
Oh, yeah... THAT Barry Loudermilk... now going after Liz Cheney. That's rich.
I'm smdh so much these days I'm pretty sure it's going to fall off.
A few comments...
1) I would say that people like Loudermilk have no shame, but that’s very old news by now.
2) One of the things that’s always struck me about the recent investigations into Dems and Reps is this: once the investigation is over, the Dems have accepted the results. The Reps refuse. Just look at the Russia investigation. Dems didn’t get what they wanted (dirt on Trump) but they didn’t spend time calling it a sham investigation or saying Mueller was a tool of the Deep State. Other than the honest disagreement about whether Trump obstructed justice during the investigation, Dems accepted the results. It was Trump who kept talking about it. Then look at Benghazi or the “Biden crime family” investigations. When Reps didn’t get what they wanted (dirt on Obama, Clinton, or Biden), they immediately said that the investigation was flawed. Or, in the case of the Biden investigation, they simply lied about what they had found.
The various investigations into possible voter fraud in 2020 have their own twist to this story. In that case, it’s not so much that Reps wouldn’t accept the results. They basically pretended that the investigations never happened in the first place.
My point is that even if they were to investigate Cheney and nothing at all was found, it will never go away. There will always be some “question” or “concern” about her actions. And the fact that they, themselves, conducted the investigation and didn’t find anything will not make the slightest dent in the GOP bubble.
And the same will go for anyone else who is investigated by Reps.
3) I don’t know all the details, but my gut reaction is that the Dems blew it by selecting Connolly instead of AOC. Wouldn’t it be nice to start showcasing the younger members of the party?
I also think it’s instructive to compare AOC to MTG. Both came on the scene about the same time, and I originally thought the same of both of them – loud and more interested in scoring media points than actually governing. But no sane person could look at the two of them today and think that they are cut from the same cloth. No matter how anyone feels about her policy positions, AOC has shown herself to be a serious legislator. MTG is still MTG.
And I also think it’s instructive to look at the way these two folks were treated by their respective parties. The story goes that Pelosi told AOC that if she wanted to get her issues addressed, she needed to get more people like her elected. And she needed to behave herself. MTG still says outrageous and inflammatory things, just as unserious as the day she entered Congress. But she is a rock star in the GOP today.
4) I don’t have any idea about the inner workings of the country’s intelligence community, but if 10% of the warnings about Gabbard are true, she shouldn’t be anywhere near the Office of the DNI.
All well said. Your #2 especially the case. As for #4, that Lt. Colonel in the civil affairs reserves wouldn’t pass the security check to get a job as night janitor in any intelligence facility. We’d hope that might apply to DNI job but the Senate, whaddaya gonna do? 🙄
The asymmetry is real and not going away. Dems better either fight dirty or message better, or they’re the dodo. JVL is right.
I'm normally a true Nancy Pelosi fan, but I'm seeing where she was instrumental in sinking AOC's bid to be top Dem on the Oversight committee. I recall Nancy saying even a "glass of water" could have gotten elected as a Dem in AOC's heavily Dem NYC district when AOC first came to congress. The enmity has never faded. But it is time for the old guard Dems to gracefully cede some meaningful ground to the youngsters. Way past time, in fact. Love Nancy but this was unbecoming of a great old soldier.
" 'I was communicating with Elon last night,' Johnson said on Fox News this morning. “
For Pastor Mike, this is a distinct improvement over reporting on what his god was communicating to him.
I find it fascinating that people who are not yet part of the NEXT government, and even then will never have been submitted to Senate for confirmation and will only be advisors are negotiating with the Speaker of the House on THIS government's (until January 3) legislation.
Elon and Vivek can run budget negotiations when Trump is President not before.
Harley - even after Jan 20, 2025 do we really believe those 2 can “run” anything very effectively? …other than into a ditch? 😉
The whole process that Trump and the GOP are following during this transition period is an absolute travesty. Allowing unelected billionaires, with immense conflicts of interest, one of whom is himself a racist immigrant who it appears worked illegally in the country and lied in his immigration application, to make decisions of any significance regarding government spending especially when a lot of that may play a role in the further support of their own businesses is beyond ridiculous. This is such overt graft and a form of corruption seen so commonly in banana republics and other authoritarian states, which we clearly are heading towards here under Trump and his totally avaricious family and friends. The worst though will follow with the almost undoubted plans to accuse Trumps opponents, including Liz Cheney and other members of the legitimate Jan 6th Congressional Committee, of crimes against the state. With that precedent where will such accusations lead. Will all who oppose Trump at any point be targeted for such quasi judicial treatment? Does this not smack of the behavior of fascist and authoritarian regimes. Already Trump is targeting journalists and newspapers he believes opposed his reelection. That alone is atrocious behavior and demands us to oppose Trump and his thieves immediately and forever! We cannot allow this behavior. Not only is it antithetical to a functioning democracy but it goes against everything that America ever stood for since 1776. Allowing this behavior to continue is a capitulation to the authoritarianism that will unquestionably be the upshot of a second Trump presidency. We need to stand firmly opposed to these actions, all of them!
How can Musk be allowed to hold America hostage. He is trying to create chaos as cover for his further theft from the tax payers. First, STOP buying Teslas. Second, we need to force the government to stop Musk from further participation in security issues. Stop backing Starlink and SpaceX. Government must support alternatives and forget this crazy notion of going to Mars. That’s a pointless waste of money when we still have so much to do to fix up Earth first.
To hell with the notion of America first. If we care about our children, grandchildren and beyond, we need to make the EARTH FIRST!
The gilded age called, it wants its oligarchs back.
On the first anniversary of 1.6, the House held a memorial service on the Floor.
Liz Cheney was the only Republican to attend. Adam Kinzinger was at home with his wife, who was giving birth.
VP Cheney attended and stood with Rep. Cheney. Until that day I never had a kind word for the man but I’m willing to acknowledge that he is a loving father.
All of the Democrats lined up to shake his hand after. One asked him if he was concerned about how Rep. Cheney’s party was treating her. He said, “My daughter can take care of herself.”
Liz Cheney can take care of herself. I pity the idiots who try to go after her.
I'm not sure the US presidency is the most stressful job on earth. President Biden really has no reason to fear of "falling" out of a White House window while Vlad Putin won't even go in a room with windows.