Came to this ep a few days late and while I would have said that the prognosticating on Trump's course was delusional, I think the Gaetz and Gabbard appointments said it more succinctly than I am capable of.
Of course he will use the government to go after his enemies, implement tariffs, fire Charles Brown, and probably try to build a colosseum. Even odds on US boots on the ground in Iran by end of '25.
I guess this is the good and hard phase of that Mencken quote.
What's next for our national security when Hegseth is confirmed as Secretary of Defense, Gaetz as Attorney General, Noem for Secretary of Homeland Security, and Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence?
Currently, all three stages of treatment for gender dysphoria in children and adolescents require consent from all parties with parental responsibility. This applies even when a young person is Gillick competent and consents to their own treatment.
This is the first time that I listened to this podcast. I was a bit taken aback about the dismissal of folks' serious concerns about the upcoming administration, and I would like to hear a discussion about the new nominations that were announced the past two days, just as others have commented.
And another thing! I think it was this discussion where it was pointed out that Erdogan and Orban have organized beliefs, etc. You guys are more familiar than I, but I suspect their most organized belief is that the want to amass power. All of their other beliefs, no matter how organized, are in service to that one.
"When chaos erupted in Amsterdam between Maccabi Tel Aviv and Ajax fans, photographer Annet de Graaf watched the violence unfold across the city first-hand.
Her footage of Maccabi fans attacking a Dutch resident went viral, and was picked up by several media outlets, who then spun a different narrative that it was the Israelis being attacked."
Please watch the interview with Medhi Hasan of Annet de Graaf whose video footage was broadcast with a distorted narrative before talking about a pogrom in Amsterdam.
We are now in a world that every podcast needs to have a creation date and time stamp in the description. This discussion was clearly done before 8:45pm EST time on Tuesday Nov 12. Which makes it hard to listen to, I usually find these discussions incredibly valuable, but timing is everything. It is clear they were too early with their discussion, but the failure of imagination is striking, not realizing who Trump might nominate for Secretary of Defense and Director of National Intelligence, just to name two. I would very much like to hear a discussion about these picks. I would also like to hear if they are still of the opinion that people need to take a deep breath and calm down. I am not as interested in listening to them opine about what VP Harris did right or wrong, but I would very much like to hear what kind of damage could occur if the Republican Senate steps aside for Trump to make recess selections. Or just votes these non-qualified people into these positions.
Agree on the timing. I’m listening to this Monday morning. Gabbard, Hegseth and Gaetz happened since they taped - I look forward to the next episode and hope to hear Eliot explain how he’s just going to “take one bad decision at a time” when there’s a shitstorm of bad decisions coming at us.
They also described Thune as reassuring possible senate leader. Yet Thune has already suggesting going along with recess appointments if the Democrats are uncooperative.
I just listened as well (Friday AM) and echo your sentiments on timing as well as the sense that--even when taped--the level of alarm is short of where I think it should be. On the domestic front, I am less concerned with specific policies (which can be undone) than I am with the *possibility* of much continued and much great erosions to the norms of governance that have been part of the system of checks and balances. We are seeing that elements of the Constitution that give the Executive Branch much greater power (recess appointments, the ability to adjourn Congress, the fact that the 22nd Amendment amazingly does not foresee the possibility of a two term President running as VP) are elements that apparently assumed people of good character to be in the office which is clearly not the case. And in foreign affairs, policies and actions can actually be quite dangerous and in many ways cannot be undone (I.E. the weakening of US resolute support of allies).
I hope and trust that Eric and Eliot will start to see that more clearly and realize that even policies with which they agree may also create risks for the Republic based on the manner in which they are decided upon and executed.
"They abandoned the working class" - I'm so tired of the old folks saying this on The Bulwark when it's simply not true. An actual abandonment of the working class is Trump's policies. Just cause you market it as being for them doesn't mean they are. Harris 100% was working class focused policies, but people don't care about policies they care about having their feelings and views reinforced.
What national security? We voted that away on November the 4th. The largest threat to our national security is going to share all of our secrets with Putin and anyone else willing to pay him. No ally will share information with us for at least 20 years. Our safety has been sold....
Oh and Israel. We understand that Netanyahu and Trump are convenient buddies right now - we will no longer keep your secrets. In fact, everything that you have ever told us will be fair game to impress visitors at the golf course when we want to feel important. Sorry about that.
No, but kids are socially transitioning at school with the cooperation of school authorities, and this is kept from the parents. In some states, girls can get abortions without parental notification, let alone consent.
It’s worth listening to the podcast Grapevine, by the producers of Southlake, it’s about a trans teen whose mother doesn’t accept her child and the young person’s fight to what is essentially bodily autonomy. Unfortunately so many discussions about transgender youth go straight to the horrifying framing and don’t give space to what the child feels and needs. Note: I’m fully onboard with all people, young & old, making all decisions about their bodies. That includes the right to opt out of treatments for cancer and go with palliative care only, choose euthanasia & girls deciding whether to carry a baby to term without parental consent.
This. I like listen to discussions on bulwark, but I think the hosts should catch up on the reality why dems lost. Reason why we are here is the relentless outrage machine. If not kids hormone treatments (not true), if not gender transition surgery (2 cases nationally) there would be something else the rep media machine would invent. Without fact checks the non-political voter will run with it because they believe it or, because they know it is not true and still happy with the lies.
You keep sanewashing the insane. Be part of the solution. Be better.
Could we get some proof or fact checking about minors receiving hormone therapy without their parents knowledge or consent?
Came to this ep a few days late and while I would have said that the prognosticating on Trump's course was delusional, I think the Gaetz and Gabbard appointments said it more succinctly than I am capable of.
Of course he will use the government to go after his enemies, implement tariffs, fire Charles Brown, and probably try to build a colosseum. Even odds on US boots on the ground in Iran by end of '25.
I guess this is the good and hard phase of that Mencken quote.
What's next for our national security when Hegseth is confirmed as Secretary of Defense, Gaetz as Attorney General, Noem for Secretary of Homeland Security, and Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence?
Good night, and good luck, y'all.
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Currently, all three stages of treatment for gender dysphoria in children and adolescents require consent from all parties with parental responsibility. This applies even when a young person is Gillick competent and consents to their own treatment.
I mean how could he make such a “fos news statement”
Stop whining about pronouns. It’s just general respect.
No, it's not. It is a demand for ideological submission.
This is the first time that I listened to this podcast. I was a bit taken aback about the dismissal of folks' serious concerns about the upcoming administration, and I would like to hear a discussion about the new nominations that were announced the past two days, just as others have commented.
And another thing! I think it was this discussion where it was pointed out that Erdogan and Orban have organized beliefs, etc. You guys are more familiar than I, but I suspect their most organized belief is that the want to amass power. All of their other beliefs, no matter how organized, are in service to that one.
We need to start thinking about Trump like that.
"When chaos erupted in Amsterdam between Maccabi Tel Aviv and Ajax fans, photographer Annet de Graaf watched the violence unfold across the city first-hand.
Her footage of Maccabi fans attacking a Dutch resident went viral, and was picked up by several media outlets, who then spun a different narrative that it was the Israelis being attacked."
Please watch the interview with Medhi Hasan of Annet de Graaf whose video footage was broadcast with a distorted narrative before talking about a pogrom in Amsterdam.
We are now in a world that every podcast needs to have a creation date and time stamp in the description. This discussion was clearly done before 8:45pm EST time on Tuesday Nov 12. Which makes it hard to listen to, I usually find these discussions incredibly valuable, but timing is everything. It is clear they were too early with their discussion, but the failure of imagination is striking, not realizing who Trump might nominate for Secretary of Defense and Director of National Intelligence, just to name two. I would very much like to hear a discussion about these picks. I would also like to hear if they are still of the opinion that people need to take a deep breath and calm down. I am not as interested in listening to them opine about what VP Harris did right or wrong, but I would very much like to hear what kind of damage could occur if the Republican Senate steps aside for Trump to make recess selections. Or just votes these non-qualified people into these positions.
Agree on the timing. I’m listening to this Monday morning. Gabbard, Hegseth and Gaetz happened since they taped - I look forward to the next episode and hope to hear Eliot explain how he’s just going to “take one bad decision at a time” when there’s a shitstorm of bad decisions coming at us.
They also described Thune as reassuring possible senate leader. Yet Thune has already suggesting going along with recess appointments if the Democrats are uncooperative.
I just listened as well (Friday AM) and echo your sentiments on timing as well as the sense that--even when taped--the level of alarm is short of where I think it should be. On the domestic front, I am less concerned with specific policies (which can be undone) than I am with the *possibility* of much continued and much great erosions to the norms of governance that have been part of the system of checks and balances. We are seeing that elements of the Constitution that give the Executive Branch much greater power (recess appointments, the ability to adjourn Congress, the fact that the 22nd Amendment amazingly does not foresee the possibility of a two term President running as VP) are elements that apparently assumed people of good character to be in the office which is clearly not the case. And in foreign affairs, policies and actions can actually be quite dangerous and in many ways cannot be undone (I.E. the weakening of US resolute support of allies).
I hope and trust that Eric and Eliot will start to see that more clearly and realize that even policies with which they agree may also create risks for the Republic based on the manner in which they are decided upon and executed.
I appreciated your thoughtful conversation on the situation in the Mideast. I am less sanguine about the ramifications of Trump’s cabinet choices.
"They abandoned the working class" - I'm so tired of the old folks saying this on The Bulwark when it's simply not true. An actual abandonment of the working class is Trump's policies. Just cause you market it as being for them doesn't mean they are. Harris 100% was working class focused policies, but people don't care about policies they care about having their feelings and views reinforced.
Actual working class voters disagree with you.
What national security? We voted that away on November the 4th. The largest threat to our national security is going to share all of our secrets with Putin and anyone else willing to pay him. No ally will share information with us for at least 20 years. Our safety has been sold....
Oh and Israel. We understand that Netanyahu and Trump are convenient buddies right now - we will no longer keep your secrets. In fact, everything that you have ever told us will be fair game to impress visitors at the golf course when we want to feel important. Sorry about that.
Fact check: I'm certain no one is giving kids hormone treatments without parental consent.
No, but kids are socially transitioning at school with the cooperation of school authorities, and this is kept from the parents. In some states, girls can get abortions without parental notification, let alone consent.
It’s worth listening to the podcast Grapevine, by the producers of Southlake, it’s about a trans teen whose mother doesn’t accept her child and the young person’s fight to what is essentially bodily autonomy. Unfortunately so many discussions about transgender youth go straight to the horrifying framing and don’t give space to what the child feels and needs. Note: I’m fully onboard with all people, young & old, making all decisions about their bodies. That includes the right to opt out of treatments for cancer and go with palliative care only, choose euthanasia & girls deciding whether to carry a baby to term without parental consent.
This. I like listen to discussions on bulwark, but I think the hosts should catch up on the reality why dems lost. Reason why we are here is the relentless outrage machine. If not kids hormone treatments (not true), if not gender transition surgery (2 cases nationally) there would be something else the rep media machine would invent. Without fact checks the non-political voter will run with it because they believe it or, because they know it is not true and still happy with the lies.