Re: "The Right-Wing Embrace of Bloodlust - Daniel Penny"
And where were the chicken shits in the same subway car when it was obvious that this"hero" was going to kill Jordan Neely? The words of encouragement that some people gave Penny reveal their underlying fantasy of applying brute force over protest, when they don't have the intelligence to consider otherwise.
I was raised in a Republican family ; I used to watch the news with my dad ( this is 1958 ish). When I voted for the first time I voted Democrat. The last decent R was Dwight Eisenhower imho
Also raised in a Republican family at a time when Republicans were considered to be careful about policy changes. I'd probably register as a Republican if they still talked like Dwight Eisenhower.
There is no bully pulpit in today's media landscape. Heard this plea during the Obama years so many times. Doesn't matter what you say in the state of the union or national address media is so polarized the other side will just spin it or call it outright lies. It was a bully pulpit when a national address and broadcast media was the main instrument. Now you got plenty of cable news nonsense, social media and websites to ensure people are only hearing their curated views.
You can wax poetic all you want but if you don't have the votes you aren't doing anything. Republican/Conservative types see the hypocrisy of this debt ceiling gamesmanship and don't care. They will still blame Biden if it happens because it's not a logical response. It's an emotional response against the people you hate.
Unfortunately, some ultra libs do the same thing. They're grousing about the deal that gave Rs very little and put off this nonsense until after 2024! Luckily, they're a very small minority, but they do get on the news. I want Walter Cronkite!
You will be hard pressed to find a more loyal Bidenista than me, but I must confess I am not thrilled with his handling of the Debt Ceiling situation. I know, I know, he's the grownup in the room--he's doing the sensible thing. But he won't get any credit for that--yet he will certainly inherit most of the blame if it goes south.
I'd really like to see some Dark Brandon energy on this. He needs to tell McCarthy to go get his shine box--though he's frankly unfit to shine the president's shoes.
Maybe Dark Brandon comes on after default “X-Day” hits? If I understand it correctly, the R’s have the leverage now but that leverage goes to Biden once default “X-Day” hits. Then he gets to decide (without Congress) who gets paid, what gets paid, and how much gets paid. Maybe D districts still get funded while R districts go without? Don’t want to default, but might be fun listening to R’s whine about Dark Barndon taking their funds away.
Never Trumpers must never embrace DeSantis. He’s the real deal: a fascist who uses the power of his office to punish anyone who disagrees with him. Book banning. Criminalizing drag queens. Demonizing trans kids. Banning abortion. Attacking gays. Censoring Black history. Crushing academic freedom. Putting unqualified cronies into college presidencies. Freedom goes to Florida to die.
It's like DeSantis has forgotten those BLM rallies were being held during the Trump administration so it was that administration who didn't go after any protesters he thinks acted as badly as the Jan 6 insurrectionists.
Actually it's a canard that none of the BLM and Antifa rioters were prosecuted. Sarah brought the receipts in the last Secret Podcast on Friday. If I remember correctly, roughly 120 of them were convicted and handed sentences of up to five years.
And I am sure that each of these debate judges would pride themselves on tolerance and open-mindedness for diversity and new ideas. What a pile of steaming crap -- these will be the same idiots who will publicly lament the low, demeaning quality of discourse along with many people's reluctance to discuss and address tough issues. Shubham G, shut your piehole of ignorance and go live in a society that regulates and limits speech you find offensive - you would like Russia, Iran and North Korea for starters.
The people who should be removed are the ones who named them judges in the first place, and allowed them to remain with these "standards" of evaluation.
more than five times as many people at the height of the Black Lives Matter protests last summer than they did during the day of insurrection at the Capitol, according to a CNN analysis of Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) data. "
So they're wrong. I think both protests were terrible. But only one took over the Capitol building and tried to install a dictator.
Reasonable people can debate about negotiating strategies, including the communication element, and bottom line I trust the Biden admin to handle the actual negotiations competently.
But ... it is generally true that communication from this admin is weak. Biden communicates infrequently and rarely inhabits the pulpit, bully as it may be, and in general his delivery ranges from poor to OK . Press Sec'y Karine J-P is unimpressive. One would hope for a strong press sec'y to complement a POTUS that does not communicate well. Ongoing missed opportunity for administration and country,
DeSantis tries to present himself as a just and logical man by calling for equal application of the law, but I wish he could explain why smashing windows and stealing TVs under the guise of a BLM protest in any way equates with storming the capitol and trying to prevent certification of a lawfully elected president.
I agree. Biden appears far too passive and hesitant to clarify the Administration alternative. He's making Kevin McCarthy look like a firm leader--on the model of say, Attila the Hun: Surrender or Die!
But there is a downside to any plan by the Biden Administration to deal with the debt ceiling that involves the Fourteenth Amendment. Any argument for unilaterally ignoring the debt ceiling that specifies a provision of the Constitution will come up before a hostile Supreme Court. And will become presumptive precedent in a formerly unprecedented situation. That's very bad for the future of the country.
I think that there is a better argument that shows real leadership: invoke the President's oath of office and the separation of powers. The President can argue that it is Congress's job to tax and spend, not his. And it's their job to send him a bill that he can sign. If they don't do that, then his oath of office to preserve and protect the Constitution requires him to keep the government running willy-nilly.
The President acknowledges that he can't set new levels of taxation or spending without Congressional approval. But, absent Congressional action, he must use his judgment to continue the status quo. Most importantly, it's not in the Supreme Court's power to shut down the government or to set new levels of spending.
President Biden knows that a majority of the American people don't want the country to default. He should be confident in expressing his conviction of the limited, but in this case powerful, duty imposed by his oath of office. And if the Supreme Court says otherwise, Biden needs to firmly remind them of their place in the system of separation of powers. In this case, it's his call to make. Alone. Because he's the elected leader...
Okay, "passive" is too harsh. But here is Biden in his own words (by Susan Glasser in The New Yorker):
"Biden’s comments on this subject have been a bit delphic. At a G7 summit in Japan over the weekend, he was asked what assurances he had offered America’s allies that the United States wouldn’t default on its debts. He said he couldn’t guarantee that the Republicans wouldn’t force a default by “doing something outrageous,” and added, “I’m looking at the Fourteenth Amendment, as to whether or not we have the authority. I think we have the authority. The question is: could it be done and invoked in time? . . . That’s a question that I think is unresolved.”
So, "delphic."
Look, I agree with what you say. It is Republicans' fault. Everyone reading this blog, presumably agrees. But blame--even if correctly directed--is not a plan of action.
Re the politicization of school debates: This is why DeSantis, Ramaswany and others are getting so much traction with their anti-woke stances.
Re: "The Right-Wing Embrace of Bloodlust - Daniel Penny"
And where were the chicken shits in the same subway car when it was obvious that this"hero" was going to kill Jordan Neely? The words of encouragement that some people gave Penny reveal their underlying fantasy of applying brute force over protest, when they don't have the intelligence to consider otherwise.
I was raised in a Republican family ; I used to watch the news with my dad ( this is 1958 ish). When I voted for the first time I voted Democrat. The last decent R was Dwight Eisenhower imho
Also raised in a Republican family at a time when Republicans were considered to be careful about policy changes. I'd probably register as a Republican if they still talked like Dwight Eisenhower.
There is no bully pulpit in today's media landscape. Heard this plea during the Obama years so many times. Doesn't matter what you say in the state of the union or national address media is so polarized the other side will just spin it or call it outright lies. It was a bully pulpit when a national address and broadcast media was the main instrument. Now you got plenty of cable news nonsense, social media and websites to ensure people are only hearing their curated views.
You can wax poetic all you want but if you don't have the votes you aren't doing anything. Republican/Conservative types see the hypocrisy of this debt ceiling gamesmanship and don't care. They will still blame Biden if it happens because it's not a logical response. It's an emotional response against the people you hate.
Unfortunately, some ultra libs do the same thing. They're grousing about the deal that gave Rs very little and put off this nonsense until after 2024! Luckily, they're a very small minority, but they do get on the news. I want Walter Cronkite!
It’s Sunday morning. The press is reporting the “deal”. What say you about President Biden’s effectiveness now??
You will be hard pressed to find a more loyal Bidenista than me, but I must confess I am not thrilled with his handling of the Debt Ceiling situation. I know, I know, he's the grownup in the room--he's doing the sensible thing. But he won't get any credit for that--yet he will certainly inherit most of the blame if it goes south.
I'd really like to see some Dark Brandon energy on this. He needs to tell McCarthy to go get his shine box--though he's frankly unfit to shine the president's shoes.
Maybe Dark Brandon comes on after default “X-Day” hits? If I understand it correctly, the R’s have the leverage now but that leverage goes to Biden once default “X-Day” hits. Then he gets to decide (without Congress) who gets paid, what gets paid, and how much gets paid. Maybe D districts still get funded while R districts go without? Don’t want to default, but might be fun listening to R’s whine about Dark Barndon taking their funds away.
Never Trump=Never Sedition=Never DeSantis
Let’s see Liz Cheney as the GOP Presidential candidate.
Never happen. The Rs just love that cliff they're heading for.
Never Trumpers must never embrace DeSantis. He’s the real deal: a fascist who uses the power of his office to punish anyone who disagrees with him. Book banning. Criminalizing drag queens. Demonizing trans kids. Banning abortion. Attacking gays. Censoring Black history. Crushing academic freedom. Putting unqualified cronies into college presidencies. Freedom goes to Florida to die.
It's like DeSantis has forgotten those BLM rallies were being held during the Trump administration so it was that administration who didn't go after any protesters he thinks acted as badly as the Jan 6 insurrectionists.
Actually it's a canard that none of the BLM and Antifa rioters were prosecuted. Sarah brought the receipts in the last Secret Podcast on Friday. If I remember correctly, roughly 120 of them were convicted and handed sentences of up to five years.
And I am sure that each of these debate judges would pride themselves on tolerance and open-mindedness for diversity and new ideas. What a pile of steaming crap -- these will be the same idiots who will publicly lament the low, demeaning quality of discourse along with many people's reluctance to discuss and address tough issues. Shubham G, shut your piehole of ignorance and go live in a society that regulates and limits speech you find offensive - you would like Russia, Iran and North Korea for starters.
The people who should be removed are the ones who named them judges in the first place, and allowed them to remain with these "standards" of evaluation.
Bravo.
"DC police arrested
more than five times as many people at the height of the Black Lives Matter protests last summer than they did during the day of insurrection at the Capitol, according to a CNN analysis of Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) data. "
So they're wrong. I think both protests were terrible. But only one took over the Capitol building and tried to install a dictator.
Reasonable people can debate about negotiating strategies, including the communication element, and bottom line I trust the Biden admin to handle the actual negotiations competently.
But ... it is generally true that communication from this admin is weak. Biden communicates infrequently and rarely inhabits the pulpit, bully as it may be, and in general his delivery ranges from poor to OK . Press Sec'y Karine J-P is unimpressive. One would hope for a strong press sec'y to complement a POTUS that does not communicate well. Ongoing missed opportunity for administration and country,
DeSantis tries to present himself as a just and logical man by calling for equal application of the law, but I wish he could explain why smashing windows and stealing TVs under the guise of a BLM protest in any way equates with storming the capitol and trying to prevent certification of a lawfully elected president.
I'm still not sure how being over zealous at a protest is even remotely close to trying to take over the government by force.
That would depend on how violent the "zealousness" ends up being.
Thus totally undermining the purpose of "debate"
Re Joe Biden and the Debt Ceiling
I agree. Biden appears far too passive and hesitant to clarify the Administration alternative. He's making Kevin McCarthy look like a firm leader--on the model of say, Attila the Hun: Surrender or Die!
But there is a downside to any plan by the Biden Administration to deal with the debt ceiling that involves the Fourteenth Amendment. Any argument for unilaterally ignoring the debt ceiling that specifies a provision of the Constitution will come up before a hostile Supreme Court. And will become presumptive precedent in a formerly unprecedented situation. That's very bad for the future of the country.
I think that there is a better argument that shows real leadership: invoke the President's oath of office and the separation of powers. The President can argue that it is Congress's job to tax and spend, not his. And it's their job to send him a bill that he can sign. If they don't do that, then his oath of office to preserve and protect the Constitution requires him to keep the government running willy-nilly.
The President acknowledges that he can't set new levels of taxation or spending without Congressional approval. But, absent Congressional action, he must use his judgment to continue the status quo. Most importantly, it's not in the Supreme Court's power to shut down the government or to set new levels of spending.
President Biden knows that a majority of the American people don't want the country to default. He should be confident in expressing his conviction of the limited, but in this case powerful, duty imposed by his oath of office. And if the Supreme Court says otherwise, Biden needs to firmly remind them of their place in the system of separation of powers. In this case, it's his call to make. Alone. Because he's the elected leader...
Okay, "passive" is too harsh. But here is Biden in his own words (by Susan Glasser in The New Yorker):
"Biden’s comments on this subject have been a bit delphic. At a G7 summit in Japan over the weekend, he was asked what assurances he had offered America’s allies that the United States wouldn’t default on its debts. He said he couldn’t guarantee that the Republicans wouldn’t force a default by “doing something outrageous,” and added, “I’m looking at the Fourteenth Amendment, as to whether or not we have the authority. I think we have the authority. The question is: could it be done and invoked in time? . . . That’s a question that I think is unresolved.”
So, "delphic."
Look, I agree with what you say. It is Republicans' fault. Everyone reading this blog, presumably agrees. But blame--even if correctly directed--is not a plan of action.