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What If Good Things Happen?
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What If Good Things Happen?

An else-worlds episode.

Sarah and JVL talk about some reasons why things might turn out . . . okay? But then they quickly snap back to reality and start cataloguing all of the Strategically Silent Anti-Anti Trump DeSantis Stans who are preparing to hop back onto Big Orange.

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Each Friday best friends, Sarah Longwell and JVL, go off-leash and uncensored in this intimate podcast.
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