People who waited for years to come to this country through proper channels and procedures like my family were “legal aliens” with green cards. After many years, we became proud citizens. Those who ignored those proper procedures, tried to skip the line, broke the law by entering the USA without authorization, and tried to stay here are,…
People who waited for years to come to this country through proper channels and procedures like my family were “legal aliens” with green cards. After many years, we became proud citizens. Those who ignored those proper procedures, tried to skip the line, broke the law by entering the USA without authorization, and tried to stay here are, therefore, “illegal aliens”. A completely proper use of the English language and not difficult to comprehend. Take your Orwellian newspeak somewhere else.
As you well know, there is no way that the people being deported could have ever gotten legal permission to immigrate. They don't meet the educational or other requirements that were set up to keep people like them from coming here.
And your point is? Doesn’t a sovereign nation have a right to pick and choose its lawful immigrants? Canada and most other countries have more stringent standards on a “merit based” immigration policy. I’d rather take a neurologist from Nigeria then a recent graduate of Hamas from Gaza.
The point is that if you know full well that the immigrants don't have any chance of fulfilling the "legal" requirements, it behooves you to stop yammering about "proper channels."
Okay, how about this: There is no inherent, moral or legal right for anyone, including my own family who came here 55 f…ing years ago, to emigrate to the USA. For those of us lucky enough to make it here legally, kiss the ground every day. For those who jumped the turnstile, got caught and deported …tough s…t.
Nope. As long as you try to make some sort of moral distinction between the two groups, it doesn't work. If you want to feel superior to the undocumented immigrants, remember that they came here knowing that they would never get the safety net support (Social Security, Medicare, food stamps, housing supplements, and all the rest of it) that your family felt entitled to when they arrived.
The illegals, and I will call them illegals, don’t get any benefits? Please. My kids are grown now, but when they were little we never took them to an emergency room unless there was something seriously wrong. We had insurance, but the deductible was huge. They either toughed it out or just went to the doctor the next morning. If an illegal alien kid so much as has the sniffles he goes straight to ER because they know that the hospital can’t refuse services. Their kids attend public schools where they get at least two and sometimes three free meals a day. The teachers have to spend extra time with them because of language barrier and are incentivized to do so. They’re bonuses are often based on improvements in a kid’s test scores so if you take failing illegal kid to average it counts more than just maintaining a native born at the same level. You ever been to a Medicaid office? Believe me, they know how to get benefits. Eventually people get sick and tired of this crap and demand stricter enforcement. When the “acceptable” center-right-center-left parties refuse to listen to the people on immigration, eventually the people will turn to leaders who will take them seriously like Trump, Alternative for Germany, Swedish Democratics and other “fascists”. But, nobody here wants to hear that
You have to be kidding if you think that immigrants go to the emergency rooms for trivial ailments. They don't want to deal with any public services to avoid interaction with ICE.
And since schools are paid by local taxes (sales and property), the undocumented immigrants are paying as much as anyone else. Those people who want to deny them education but are quite happy to keep the money that they paid are nothing more than parasites.
Noncitizens are not eligible for Medicaid so your statement about that is nonsensical.
People who waited for years to come to this country through proper channels and procedures like my family were “legal aliens” with green cards. After many years, we became proud citizens. Those who ignored those proper procedures, tried to skip the line, broke the law by entering the USA without authorization, and tried to stay here are, therefore, “illegal aliens”. A completely proper use of the English language and not difficult to comprehend. Take your Orwellian newspeak somewhere else.
As you well know, there is no way that the people being deported could have ever gotten legal permission to immigrate. They don't meet the educational or other requirements that were set up to keep people like them from coming here.
And your point is? Doesn’t a sovereign nation have a right to pick and choose its lawful immigrants? Canada and most other countries have more stringent standards on a “merit based” immigration policy. I’d rather take a neurologist from Nigeria then a recent graduate of Hamas from Gaza.
The point is that if you know full well that the immigrants don't have any chance of fulfilling the "legal" requirements, it behooves you to stop yammering about "proper channels."
Okay, how about this: There is no inherent, moral or legal right for anyone, including my own family who came here 55 f…ing years ago, to emigrate to the USA. For those of us lucky enough to make it here legally, kiss the ground every day. For those who jumped the turnstile, got caught and deported …tough s…t.
Nope. As long as you try to make some sort of moral distinction between the two groups, it doesn't work. If you want to feel superior to the undocumented immigrants, remember that they came here knowing that they would never get the safety net support (Social Security, Medicare, food stamps, housing supplements, and all the rest of it) that your family felt entitled to when they arrived.
The illegals, and I will call them illegals, don’t get any benefits? Please. My kids are grown now, but when they were little we never took them to an emergency room unless there was something seriously wrong. We had insurance, but the deductible was huge. They either toughed it out or just went to the doctor the next morning. If an illegal alien kid so much as has the sniffles he goes straight to ER because they know that the hospital can’t refuse services. Their kids attend public schools where they get at least two and sometimes three free meals a day. The teachers have to spend extra time with them because of language barrier and are incentivized to do so. They’re bonuses are often based on improvements in a kid’s test scores so if you take failing illegal kid to average it counts more than just maintaining a native born at the same level. You ever been to a Medicaid office? Believe me, they know how to get benefits. Eventually people get sick and tired of this crap and demand stricter enforcement. When the “acceptable” center-right-center-left parties refuse to listen to the people on immigration, eventually the people will turn to leaders who will take them seriously like Trump, Alternative for Germany, Swedish Democratics and other “fascists”. But, nobody here wants to hear that
You have to be kidding if you think that immigrants go to the emergency rooms for trivial ailments. They don't want to deal with any public services to avoid interaction with ICE.
And since schools are paid by local taxes (sales and property), the undocumented immigrants are paying as much as anyone else. Those people who want to deny them education but are quite happy to keep the money that they paid are nothing more than parasites.
Noncitizens are not eligible for Medicaid so your statement about that is nonsensical.