Are we talking about trans-fats now, because we know how this administration feels about everything trans. Maybe we can mix in a measles vaccine in with the fries and kill two birds with one stone. Kennedy sure has his priorities in line doesn't he?
Just a reminder that not everyone who drinks raw milk or uses beef tallow is nuts or your enemy. I usually fry in lard because of it's high smoke point. I love olive oil but it's not good for frying.
Sure, I hear you. If you prefer beef tallow for taste or some kind of gourmet cooking reason, all the more power to you, but just don't claim we are poisoning ourselves with 'seed oils' (which is pseudo science bullshit).
I remember about 20 years ago when Silvio Burlesconi the bunga bunga party, media mogul guy became Prime Minister in Italy and I thought that was so embarrassing for them that they weren't a serious Country like the United States...we would never do something so ridiculous
So RFK will make us healthier with fries made with beef tallow or fat. The entire process of making fries is inherently not healthy no matter what you fry in. Seed oils are getting an undeserved bad rap - the science does not support these claims that are being pushed by both the left and the right. Deep frying in ANY kind of fat changes the nature of the oil or fat making it harmful. As for seed oils in highly processed packaged foods, it is guilt by association with other elements of the food (sugars, saturated fats, sodium, reduction of nutrients) that contribute most to the deleterious health effects - guilt by association. When you look at decades of nutrition science in human populations, seed oils - like fruit oils (olive etc.) - are linked to lower risks of heart disease and cancer compared to animal or trans fats. This is what happens when you have a person with zero understanding of how science and research works in charge of the nation's health.
I’m a subscriber and daily reader who sincerely appreciates the work of The Bulwark. I also taught Shakespeare’s The Tragedy of Julius Caesar to high school sophomores for decades. I urge you, as I urged my students, to spell the name correctly: Caesar, not Ceasar! Thank you
DOGE itself is clearly waste in search of fraud by abuse. The entire enterprise has created a class of "non-employees," who nonetheless are able to "make their living on other people's taxes." the entire Trump operation is "take the money and run" conducted under a claim of authority by an increasingly unstable old man conveniently beyond the reach of the 25th Amendment.
One thing at Steak 'n' Shake that is NOT good is the fries. To be fair, though, I dislike shoestring fries anyway. They cool off too fast.
But I thought in a lot of places other than the US they actually cook fries in horse or duck fat--not beef tallow.
All that said, how is it allowed to pass somehow that RFK is so familiar with how fries are cooked in places OTHER than the US and claims that other places do it better than we do?
It's true that seed oils are not good for you. But neither is beef tallow. Ditto, as Will points out, french fries. Pitching beef tallow fries because they avoid your particular bugaboo is consistent with how Trumpies roll. It's never about reasoned argument or logical decision-making. Everything is emotion-driven and deeply personalized to the point (or past the point) of zealotry.
This is not the way to run a country. It's not even the way to run bridge club. It's a recipe for disaster -- and there is no good reason why large swathes of American adults should not know this.
"Fundamentals of the economy are strong" was the last thing America heard before the Bear Stearns collapse. If Fox is running that ticker, I doubt it is unknowing.
My son works for DHS. He recently received the email about deleting pronouns from signature info. Boss’ signature info included his pronouns. They are all still scrambling about frying to find desk space, phones, and computers needed to DO their work. Such a sh*tshow!
Liz - perhaps the DOGE-bags can conduct an efficiency analysis of multiple staffers waiting their turns to use the one PC at the one desk in a shared cubicle. Boundless savings!
Yesterday I stood with 200+ other people, with my "Deport Musk-Save Healthcare" sign in hand, on the sidewalk outside the district office of MAGA Rep. Jeff Van Drew. It was a busy intersection at the evening rush hour. The honks far outnumbered the middle fingers. People waved and cheered from their cars. They stopped to take videos for their social media. The local press came. We made a big, joyful noise. NJ CD-2 is red. I was astonished.
Just SHOWING UP and being a visible, vocal presence in the world can make a huge difference. Don't wait for the Democratic party to do something (it won't). Look for the Indivisible and Move On chapters near you. The Mobilize website is a good place to start. Go to their events and make some noise! We are many, and we are not alone.
Thank you!! I had the same experience in a "purple" county of California. Just a handful of middle fingers over a 2 hour period. The rest of the time was filled with a cacophony of car horns blaring their support. Fists and thumbs up shooting out of car windows.
Schumer is treating trump like trump treats Putin. Handing over all of his leverage before he’s even asked for it.
Schumer said he can’t let the government shutdown because it would allow trump to fire more people. Now that he’s shown his belly, each spending bill will be more insane than the last. And the insanely partisan bills will carry a tag that says “better vote for this Chuck. If you don’t the government will shutdown and trump will start firing people”.
um - it's Steak and SHAKE? of course he got a shake! there is nothing healthy about their food. Why is RFK even there? oh yeah. publicity.
Are we talking about trans-fats now, because we know how this administration feels about everything trans. Maybe we can mix in a measles vaccine in with the fries and kill two birds with one stone. Kennedy sure has his priorities in line doesn't he?
Oh, Mark - “they’re killing the BIRDS!”
Just a reminder that not everyone who drinks raw milk or uses beef tallow is nuts or your enemy. I usually fry in lard because of it's high smoke point. I love olive oil but it's not good for frying.
Sure, I hear you. If you prefer beef tallow for taste or some kind of gourmet cooking reason, all the more power to you, but just don't claim we are poisoning ourselves with 'seed oils' (which is pseudo science bullshit).
I remember about 20 years ago when Silvio Burlesconi the bunga bunga party, media mogul guy became Prime Minister in Italy and I thought that was so embarrassing for them that they weren't a serious Country like the United States...we would never do something so ridiculous
Those maga-wingnuts are obsessed with trans-issues..
Could it be that this is the reason why they are shredding the relationship with European allies ?
They misunderstand the meaning of
"trans" in "transatlantic relationships"..
So RFK will make us healthier with fries made with beef tallow or fat. The entire process of making fries is inherently not healthy no matter what you fry in. Seed oils are getting an undeserved bad rap - the science does not support these claims that are being pushed by both the left and the right. Deep frying in ANY kind of fat changes the nature of the oil or fat making it harmful. As for seed oils in highly processed packaged foods, it is guilt by association with other elements of the food (sugars, saturated fats, sodium, reduction of nutrients) that contribute most to the deleterious health effects - guilt by association. When you look at decades of nutrition science in human populations, seed oils - like fruit oils (olive etc.) - are linked to lower risks of heart disease and cancer compared to animal or trans fats. This is what happens when you have a person with zero understanding of how science and research works in charge of the nation's health.
I’m a subscriber and daily reader who sincerely appreciates the work of The Bulwark. I also taught Shakespeare’s The Tragedy of Julius Caesar to high school sophomores for decades. I urge you, as I urged my students, to spell the name correctly: Caesar, not Ceasar! Thank you
Latin rules!
DOGE itself is clearly waste in search of fraud by abuse. The entire enterprise has created a class of "non-employees," who nonetheless are able to "make their living on other people's taxes." the entire Trump operation is "take the money and run" conducted under a claim of authority by an increasingly unstable old man conveniently beyond the reach of the 25th Amendment.
One thing at Steak 'n' Shake that is NOT good is the fries. To be fair, though, I dislike shoestring fries anyway. They cool off too fast.
But I thought in a lot of places other than the US they actually cook fries in horse or duck fat--not beef tallow.
All that said, how is it allowed to pass somehow that RFK is so familiar with how fries are cooked in places OTHER than the US and claims that other places do it better than we do?
It's true that seed oils are not good for you. But neither is beef tallow. Ditto, as Will points out, french fries. Pitching beef tallow fries because they avoid your particular bugaboo is consistent with how Trumpies roll. It's never about reasoned argument or logical decision-making. Everything is emotion-driven and deeply personalized to the point (or past the point) of zealotry.
This is not the way to run a country. It's not even the way to run bridge club. It's a recipe for disaster -- and there is no good reason why large swathes of American adults should not know this.
"Fundamentals of the economy are strong" was the last thing America heard before the Bear Stearns collapse. If Fox is running that ticker, I doubt it is unknowing.
More Beef tallow! Clog those arteries, up the triglycerides to levels "never seen before"! MAGA will be dropping like flies.
Schumer’s decision is a positive if he brings him closer to be ousted as minority leader in the Senate.
My son works for DHS. He recently received the email about deleting pronouns from signature info. Boss’ signature info included his pronouns. They are all still scrambling about frying to find desk space, phones, and computers needed to DO their work. Such a sh*tshow!
Liz - perhaps the DOGE-bags can conduct an efficiency analysis of multiple staffers waiting their turns to use the one PC at the one desk in a shared cubicle. Boundless savings!
Further to Bill's post:
Yesterday I stood with 200+ other people, with my "Deport Musk-Save Healthcare" sign in hand, on the sidewalk outside the district office of MAGA Rep. Jeff Van Drew. It was a busy intersection at the evening rush hour. The honks far outnumbered the middle fingers. People waved and cheered from their cars. They stopped to take videos for their social media. The local press came. We made a big, joyful noise. NJ CD-2 is red. I was astonished.
Just SHOWING UP and being a visible, vocal presence in the world can make a huge difference. Don't wait for the Democratic party to do something (it won't). Look for the Indivisible and Move On chapters near you. The Mobilize website is a good place to start. Go to their events and make some noise! We are many, and we are not alone.
Nancy you rock!
Thank you!! I had the same experience in a "purple" county of California. Just a handful of middle fingers over a 2 hour period. The rest of the time was filled with a cacophony of car horns blaring their support. Fists and thumbs up shooting out of car windows.
Cathy rocking it too!
Schumer is treating trump like trump treats Putin. Handing over all of his leverage before he’s even asked for it.
Schumer said he can’t let the government shutdown because it would allow trump to fire more people. Now that he’s shown his belly, each spending bill will be more insane than the last. And the insanely partisan bills will carry a tag that says “better vote for this Chuck. If you don’t the government will shutdown and trump will start firing people”.