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JL's avatar

The devil is in the details. I keep hoping to see those proclaiming the second coming of Adolph Hitler providing the devilish details of how Adolph the Second gaining absolute power is pulled off, leading to goose-stepping past the reviewing stand next January. Seriously.

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Just FYI from Florida: Guv DeSanitizus established a state wide тАЬarmyтАЭ that reports тАЬonlyтАЭ to himself, The Florida State Guard. (Not at all affiliated with the Florida National Guard).

ThereтАЩs 1500 of those Brown Shirts (literally, brown shirts) already across Florida, and more being produced every month.

They are тАЬtrainedтАЭ in crowd control as well as various forms of combat against predicted enemies of the state (read: Democrats and/or Black folks).

Look it up.

It should first scare everyone, then motivate each of us to enhance personal defense capabilities (!) and/or move your families out of Florida (which is what weтАЩre doing, July 30th)

Yes. The end of our Constitutional Republic appears to be near.

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JL's avatar

Okay Bill, I'll byte with your "Look it up".

And here is the red flag with the "look it up":

You provided 1) no link to your source or 2) even the key words (in order) you used for your search

I used DuckDuckGo with "Florida State Guard", which lead me to https://www.floridastateguard.org/

And the About reads "With a heritage dating back to WWII, Governor DeSantis reactivated the Florida State Guard in 2022 as a state-supported volunteer force providing rapid emergency response. Since the modern relaunch, the Florida State GuardтАЩs continued growth in capability and personnel strengthens FloridaтАЩs emergency response in aviation, maritime, and land-based operations. The Florida State Guard is committed to serving Florida families in needтАФanytime, anywhere.

Currently, 23 states and the territory of Puerto Rico actively maintain state guards. State guards are authorized under Title 32 of the U.S. Code and operate distinctly from the National Guard. They are state-funded, responsive to the Governor and focused on the needs of their home state. The 23 states that currently maintain a state guard are Alaska, California, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, and Washington."

So is the copy regarding the 23 states in error in some way? Or does it being Florida and your "...Guv DeSanitizus... work for you because it fits a particular narrative you seek to advance?

Saving you the "Look it up" here are links for some of the other states:

https://goasdf.com/

https://calguard.ca.gov/csg/

https://www.facebook.com/MIDF1BN/

https://www.oregon.gov/omd/programs/Pages/Civil-Defense-Force.aspx

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Bill's avatar

Condensed:

тАЬOrtizтАЩ hiring raises additional concerns as the Florida state guard is reportedly being trained as an armed, combat-ready militia under DeSantisтАЩs command versus a disaster relief agency, according to military veteran recruits who have quit the state guard training program.

Volunteers with the state guard are increasingly being trained for combat, according to an investigation by the Miami Herald and Tampa Bay Times, with some guard members experiencing тАЬabuseтАЭ from training officers.тАЭ

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Bill's avatar

DeSanitizus created тАЬThe Florida State GuardтАЭ after learning that he was required to justify using the Florida National Guard for political errands.

Many of the initial тАЬrecruitsтАЭ to the FSG resigned from that outfit when they realized its true purpose. Sorry Bub, you failed to refute DeSantizusтАЩ Raison de Etre:

(From The Guardian)

тАЬFlorida ex-cop with тАШpatterns of abuse and biasтАЩ joins DeSantisтАЩs state guard

Javier Ortiz, accused of false arrests, harassment and doxxing, is now member of group reportedly becoming combat-ready militia

Gloria Oladipo

Tue 7 May 2024 16.25 EDT

тАЬA former Florida police captain with a long history of civilian complaints, including false arrests and harassment, has joined the stateтАЩs state guard under governor Ron DeSantis.

Javier Ortiz, 44, joined the Florida state guard in February, the Miami Herald first reported. OrtizтАЩs enrollment comes months after being reinstated by the Miami police department, after he was initially dismissed for slew of conduct complaints.

As a member of the Florida state guard, Ortiz could be sent to assist during natural disasters or with other statewide emergencies, the Herald reported.

A spokesperson for the Florida state guard could not be reached by the Guardian in time for publication.

Several people have questioned why Ortiz is allowed to join the Florida state guard given his past misconduct.

тАЬI canтАЩt wrap my mind around how concerning this is,тАЭ Rodney Jacobs, the director of MiamiтАЩs civilian police review panel, said to the Herald about Ortiz joining the state guard.

Jacobs added: тАЬAre they being vetted?тАЭ

In 2022, Ortiz was fired by the Miami police department after an internal investigation found that the veteran police officer had been the subject of more than 70 complaints since being hired in 2004, NBC Miami reported.

Ortiz was the focus of a total of 52 citizen complaints, 20 excessive force complaints and two administrative complaints.

During a two-year inquiry into OrtizтАЩs conduct, witnesses alleged that Ortiz engaged in тАЬpattern of abuse and bias against minorities, particularly African-AmericansтАЭ, and previously cyber-stalked and doxxed people who complained against him or other officers, the Herald reported.

In one instance, Ortiz circulated the photo and contact information of a woman who posted video of a Miami-Dade police officer speeding in a suburban area.

The woman later received hundreds of threats. Ortiz was investigated for cyberbullying and other violations by the department due to that incident.

Ortiz has also been suspended from the police force multiple times before his dismissal last year.

At the time of OrtizтАЩs initial firing, Miami police chief Manny Morales said to NBC Miami that Ortiz was dismissed because of the amount of infractions on his record.

тАЬHe has, through his entire career, been able intimidate and manipulate the disciplinary process of the Miami police department to avoid any serious consequences for his actions,тАЭ said Morales.

But, despite the investigation, Ortiz was later rehired last May and allowed to keep his rank, NBC Miami reported.

OrtizтАЩs hiring raises additional concerns as the Florida state guard is reportedly being trained as an armed, combat-ready militia under DeSantisтАЩs command versus a disaster relief agency, according to military veteran recruits who have quit the state guard training program.

Volunteers with the state guard are increasingly being trained for combat, according to an investigation by the Miami Herald and Tampa Bay Times, with some guard members experiencing тАЬabuseтАЭ from training officers.тАЭ

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1)No links to your sources so it becomes a "trust me, I've got a really good feeling about this one".

2)One data point (DeSanitizus, Ortiz, Florida) doesn't make a trend

3) To reiterate from my first reply: You provide no devilish details of how Adolph the Second (Trump) gaining absolute power is pulled off, leading to goose-stepping past the reviewing stand next January."

There are 22 other states listed with these guard/defense forces. What's happening in them to facilitate this Nazi takeover?

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Bill's avatar

For someone with little history here, you certainly have injected a ton of projection into this convo. Your original Nazi comment was purposefully ridiculous, so I did not address it.

What I did report was that DeSanitizusтАЩ created a personal тАЬarmyтАЭ, directed only by himself. ThatтАЩs a fact. And that a significant number of the тАЬrecruitsтАЭ to that тАЬarmyтАЭ resigned from it as they discovered that the purported tasks the force was being created for were secondary at best.

Job One was тАЬcrowd controlтАЭ for BLM events, and against тАЬAntifaтАЭ, which only exists (rent free) in trumpist minds).

In Florida, The Florida Guard is a Political Army, not a public safety group. Injecting every other state with such a group into this convo is disingenuous, albeit typical from your ilk.

Going back to my life now. You should try to get one.

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