Cameron's take (beginning at 48:30) that Harris delivered mostly "preachy," "pedantic woke talk" seems wrong. She and her campaign went to great lengths to downplay identity politics and to wrap themselves in the American flag. Harris liked to promise a more "lethal" US military.
Maybe none of that appealed to Cameron or his friends. Howe…
Cameron's take (beginning at 48:30) that Harris delivered mostly "preachy," "pedantic woke talk" seems wrong. She and her campaign went to great lengths to downplay identity politics and to wrap themselves in the American flag. Harris liked to promise a more "lethal" US military.
Maybe none of that appealed to Cameron or his friends. However you want to describe it, though, it wasn't "woke."
Some observers of US political culture still reflexively press that button, the complaint that the Democratic Party as a whole is too far left on cultural issues. The complaint may have been valid amid the exuberance of the Me Too and BLM protests circa 2020, but for years now the leadership of the Democratic Party at the national level has been resolutely moderate and centrist (left of center but tacking more right- than leftward).
One mistake that the Harris campaign did make on cultural issues was to overplay their hand on abortion. Even stalwart pro-lifers will vote for a pro-choice Democrat if he or she votes pro-choice but doesn't celebrate "reproductive rights" or "reproductive freedom," expressions that to the ears of culturally conservative or moderate voters sound dishonest and evasive. In the Senate, Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D, NY) was mostly a reliable pro-choice vote, but he never publicly advocated for that cause. Present-day Democrats can learn from his example.
I learn from FYPod and enjoyed this episode. Cameron is a good addition to the Bulwark team. I've gone to the trouble to explain my disagreement with him on this one point because I respect his commentary.
This threw me as well and I kept waiting for Tim to follow up on it to clarify, but he never did. I wondered if he actually meant 2020 Kamala Harris rather than 2024, but then he was talking about her saying “we’re not going back,” which was 2024. I would genuinely like some specific examples of what “pedantic woke” topics he thinks Harris campaigned on.
Either way, these voters are about to find out that voting for Harris on the basis that she is not Trump was, in fact, sound advice and a great reason to support her. It’s always a good idea to vote for the person who is not promising to be a dictator.
Cameron's take (beginning at 48:30) that Harris delivered mostly "preachy," "pedantic woke talk" seems wrong. She and her campaign went to great lengths to downplay identity politics and to wrap themselves in the American flag. Harris liked to promise a more "lethal" US military.
Maybe none of that appealed to Cameron or his friends. However you want to describe it, though, it wasn't "woke."
Some observers of US political culture still reflexively press that button, the complaint that the Democratic Party as a whole is too far left on cultural issues. The complaint may have been valid amid the exuberance of the Me Too and BLM protests circa 2020, but for years now the leadership of the Democratic Party at the national level has been resolutely moderate and centrist (left of center but tacking more right- than leftward).
One mistake that the Harris campaign did make on cultural issues was to overplay their hand on abortion. Even stalwart pro-lifers will vote for a pro-choice Democrat if he or she votes pro-choice but doesn't celebrate "reproductive rights" or "reproductive freedom," expressions that to the ears of culturally conservative or moderate voters sound dishonest and evasive. In the Senate, Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D, NY) was mostly a reliable pro-choice vote, but he never publicly advocated for that cause. Present-day Democrats can learn from his example.
I learn from FYPod and enjoyed this episode. Cameron is a good addition to the Bulwark team. I've gone to the trouble to explain my disagreement with him on this one point because I respect his commentary.
This threw me as well and I kept waiting for Tim to follow up on it to clarify, but he never did. I wondered if he actually meant 2020 Kamala Harris rather than 2024, but then he was talking about her saying “we’re not going back,” which was 2024. I would genuinely like some specific examples of what “pedantic woke” topics he thinks Harris campaigned on.
Either way, these voters are about to find out that voting for Harris on the basis that she is not Trump was, in fact, sound advice and a great reason to support her. It’s always a good idea to vote for the person who is not promising to be a dictator.